From Spain here, when we want to speak about USA people we use the term “yankee” or “gringo” rather than “american” cause our americans arent from USA, that terms are correct or mean other things?

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    I’m in Texas, so there is a lot of Mexican cultural exchange. Spanish was practically a second language in my public schools, and most people speak at least a little bit of spanglish.

    When a Mexican calls an American a gringo, they’re not being nice. “Gringo” is typically used as a pejorative, to refer to a specific type of “mayo is too spicy and I’m afraid of people who have melatonin” white people.

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    You can say USAmerican or US (as an adjective, e.g. US government) as a neutral demonym. “Yankee” and “gringo” have pejorative connotations, although I’m not Latin American so I don’t know what the connotations are among LatAm Spanish speakers. Also, my understanding of the word “gringo” as someone who lives in neither of the Americas is that it refers to specifically white people, not USAmericans in general. I’m not sure if I’ve understood the usage of the term correctly, but if other people have the same understanding, they may get confused if you call eg a Black USAmerican a gringo.

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    we call them “estadunidense” which roughly translate to USian. USians tend not to like it.

    but, like, you call yourself after the entire continent, am i supposed to take it seriously?

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    Its my understanding that in Spanish, “American” refers to anyone from the Americas. In some languages/countries, the Americas are taught as 1 continent (Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, Antarctica, and America), so a person from any country in the Americas would be called “American”.

    In most English speaking countries, we are taught that there are 7 continents, and north and south America are separate continents. In that context, you wouldn’t really use a term to refer to people from both continents. It’s similar to how, as a spaniard, I could not call you “eurasian”, i would just say “european”. In English, you would then have to refer to people as either “north american” or “south american”.

    In practice, we do refer to people from south America as “south american”, but north america usually gets divided into “central american” and “caribbean”, which only leaves the US, Canada, and Mexico.

    People from Mexico and Canada have obvious demonyms, while the USA does not. “Gringo” also applies to Canadians (and it’s specifically referring to non-spanish speaking european americans), so it doesn’t really work as a demonym. “Yankee” doesn’t really work, either, because it only applies to a subset of people from the US, so it’s similar to calling everyone from Great Britain “English”.

    I haven’t met any primarily English speaking residents of the americas with any problem with people from the US being called “american”.

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    We say “USA” for the country and “US-American” for the people. Those arrogantly misusing the name of the continent can get rekt.

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    Being a native, a Yankee to me is a New Englander. My Spanish friend had to gently explain to me, “shut up, you’re all yanquis.”

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      Being a native from The South, “Yankee” to me means anybody from the area above the Mason Dixon line. Full disclosure, I’m not proud to be from The South. However, I do find many Yankees to be at least a little bit strange. So, the designation stands in my head.

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      Given that you’re the native, you should gently explain to the colonial that they are the ones who are wrong.

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    In Brazil, we use USians or Statesians

    I used the second one on an academic paper and it went through.

    I NEVER use “American”, because

    America no es solo USA, papá esto es desde el Tierra del Fuego hasta el Canada

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      Thing is, it’s “United States of America”, much like “United States of Mexico” and, before 1968, “United States of Brazil”. So when they call themselves americans, they’re technically correct.

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      America no es solo USA

      Nah, we often call them Americans too, despite them being like Canada’s trousers. Many (most? I’m not certain) Canadians know how Americans label themselves abroad and are okay being a separate group to avoid bad impressions. “eres Americano? No; soy Canadiense” or so.

      But thanks for thinking of us. It’s great to be considered!

      I use ‘yank’ a lot; sometimes Tank, as I’ve got a Brit friend ;-)

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      The reason for this is simple: the word in English is “American”. Because in English speaking countries, it is almost universally the case that we talk about the 7 continents. And in the rare case we talk about 6 continents, it’s from merging Europe and Asia (which, frankly, is blatantly a far superior model of the continents), not merging North America and South America.

      So “America” unambiguously refers to the country, and there’s no need for estadounidense, any more than there’s a need for “commonwealthian” for someone from the Commonwealth of Australia.

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          I think the point the previous user is getting at is that there is no continent of “America” in most English-speaking countries—there is North America and South America.

          Canada is in North America but it’s not in “America,” which without the North/South prefix, will make most English-speaking people assume you mean the US and not the continent Canada and the US are on.

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    I’m USAian. (just identifying for this thread, i don’t call myself that)

    would “gringo” include Black USAians? Asian USAians? Spain-born USAians?

    from my understanding of “gringo”, that doesn’t seem to include non-white USAians. Most English monolingual USAians think that means “white guy”.

    a lot of gen z USAians might not know the word Yankee as a term for USAians. if speaking to them, you might have to explain it’s not the baseball team.

    maybe it’s better to stick with “USAians”. it’s never been used but it’s easy to figure out. other possible choices are:

    • Statesians
    • USAliens
    • USAmericans
    • Staters
    • Stater Tots (re: tater tots)
    • USticles

    better yet, call each of us by the state we’re each from. that’s the safest bet. you know all our 50 state names right? and their official demonyms? 🤣 kidding

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      Honestly, reading this comment is really just reinforcing for me why we say American. Reading “USAien” over and over again hurts my head.

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    I prefer the formal name in spanish of estadounidense (united-statistian) to American.