• Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    Coffee is quite sensitive to environmental factors and only grows in certain specific regions as a result. Those factors are being upended by climate change. Coffee is going to very rapidly become a luxury product.

    Billionaires don’t care. Twenty dollars or two dollars for a cup is effectively the same price to them; insignificant. It’s the rest of us that get fucked.

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      4 days ago

      Except we are nowhere near a situation like that. Articles like this don’t tell the actual prices because they are so small people might start questioning why they pay so much for coffee.

      The poll had a median forecast for arabica prices at the end of 2025 of $2.95 per pound, a drop of 30% from Wednesday’s close and a loss of 6% from end-2024.

      $3 per pound - $6 per kilo. Or to put it in another way, 4.8 cents per shot of espresso, two of which go in a 16 oz Starbucks latte that costs you $5.75, which would be enough money to buy 120 shots worth of bulk arabica.

      If that goes up by 7% or 70% or 700%, the cost of that latte should hardly change.

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        4 days ago

        Logistics cost money

        Shucking and processing the beans costs money

        Roasting the beans costs money

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          4 days ago

          Exactly. And all of those stay the exact same price even if raw coffee price increases, meaning the price of a ready made cup of coffee hardly changes as the actual raw bulk coffee is only 1/60th of the total price of a starbucks latte.

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            4 days ago

            How about this explanation:

            There is a reduced supply of coffee beans. Let’s say 30%. This requires that 30% of customers have to be priced out of the market.

            If the coffee shop owners only increase the price by several cents then the demand stays the same. They have to fight for coffee beans which drives up their costs step by step.

            However, if they increase the price in advance, and far more than necessary right from the start, then the reduced demand matches the available supply and the value of the coffee beans roughly remains the same which allows them to profit from most of the price hike.

            • NSRXN@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              4 days ago

              There is a reduced supply of coffee beans. Let’s say 30%. This requires that 30% of customers have to be priced out of the market.

              this is fiction writing. you are literally making that up

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                4 days ago

                What do you mean? There are globally less coffee beans available. Or do you mean the 30%? That’s just an arbitrary number, as I tried to make clear by writing “Let’s say …”.

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                  4 days ago

                  the price doesn’t need to change at all. if it does, it is a decision someone makes.

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                    4 days ago

                    Then you have more demand than supply because there is not enough coffee for everybody. This leads to people queueing and some people leaving without coffee.