And apparently, also when you think that ‘They’ is a perfectly serviceable gender-neutral singular pronoun, but are willing to use other pronouns if asked to.

EDIT: Other removable offenses on Blahaj now include questioning mod/admin decisions and quoting the modlog as a reason why you’re leaving.

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    We really need to stop complaining about the pronouns shit, the real problem with dragonfucker isn’t with the preferred pronouns, it’s the fact that dragonfucker is known to harass individuals who call them out on their trolling or sealioning or disagree with them in any way they can’t spin as aggressive or hateful.

    I was harassed by an alt of this person because I called them out for their behavior when they decided to make a public attack post on me (now deleted) because I preemptively banned their user account and “spouse” account from communities I moderated for trolling, sealioning, and bad faith arguments.

    I clarified that politely and reasonably and also properly contacted pawb.social’s admins (since the mentions in their comment weren’t done properly) and the following response was to create @draconicistransphobc@discuss.online and create !fuckdraconicneo@discuss.online and start spamming it with abusive content attempting to defame, humiliate, intimidate, or even just scare me. That account also sent me porn in my DMs and made rude insults towards me. I was also told to kill myself and also sent death threats, including an invitation for admins to give out my IP address so I could be hunted down and tortured.

    I’m almost certain that dragonfucker is the one who did this since it happened immediately after the post which was made on !meta@pawb.social complaining about the bans, and also there were many slip-ups by that account which indicated it was an alt belonging to dragonfucker. Unfortunately beyond that dragonfucker likely did a good job at covering their tracks, or Lemmy just sucks at identifying people, probably both, but I’m confident enough that I’d be willing to bet real money it was dragonfucker, the circumstances are way too suspicious.

    Edit:

    Here are some of the messages and comment mentions from the alt account mentioned in the post, fair warning, they’re not pleasant. Pornographic imagery has been censored.

    CW: Abusive content, threats, suicide encouragement, harassment

    A lot of contextual information for these isn’t here, to get it the admins of pawb.social and discuss.online would need to be contacted as the content and user accounts associated have been banned.

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    YDI.

    gatekeeping sure is when you tell someone their gender isn’t real. especially under a post that specifically says “hey don’t tell people their gender isn’t real.”

    edit: removing my comments below because the discussion is no longer about respecting trans identities and is just a slapfight. fuck transphobes and get over yourselves on a single tiny user who you should have blocked months ago if you actually had a problem.

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      gatekeeping sure is when you tell someone their gender isn’t real. especially under a post that specifically says “hey don’t tell people their gender isn’t real.”

      Their claimed gender is literally a dragon.

      Dragons aren’t real.

      Dragons.

      Aren’t.

      Real.

      sounds like you and the other user will find more fulfillment in other communities than one that is specifically created to be trans accepting. i’m sorry that this user who was exhibiting trollish behavior was your first experience with a person who uses neopronouns. i hope you can come to a point of greater understanding in the future.

      This isn’t my first experience with people using neopronouns, and I explicitly stated a willingness to use neopronouns.

      edit: removing my comments below because the discussion is no longer about respecting trans identities and is just a slapfight. fuck transphobes and get over yourselves on a single tiny user who you should have blocked months ago if you actually had a problem.

      You’re engaging in an online community that’s become so insular and self-absorbed that it’s become indistinguishable from parody. You’re literally defending dragonfucker as a gender, and furthermore saying that questioning any identity is inherently unacceptable.

      Get help.

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        Literally all genders are made up, why are you getting so bent outta shape over a totally reasonable rule just because one person who stands to benefit from it is kinda annoying???

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          Literally all genders are made up

          Gravity is just made up too. Doesn’t mean I’m going to take someone preaching intelligent falling seriously.

          why are you getting so bent outta shape over a totally reasonable rule just because one person who stands to benefit from it is kinda annoying???

          Look, if you want to have your fantasy roleplay where dragonfucker is a gender, that’s on you. Like I said in the message I was removed for, I’m no longer participating in Blahaj. You have fun with your faeries and dragons.

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            You don’t get to complain about other people trolling when you are being this deliberately obtuse.

            Gravity is in the most literal sense a force of nature. It has had measurable effects since pretty much the dawn of time. Gender is a social construct. The only effects it has on the world around us is that which we as a society allow it to, and in the absence of any people who believe in such a concept it would cease to exist in any meaningful sense.

            Nobody is sincerely claiming that dragons, as in the mythological creatures, actually exist in material reality. By adopting dragonfucker/rider as a gender identity, drag is aligning with the concept of them in some kinda nebulous social sense I’m not gonna pretend to understand.

            Maybe drag’s trolling about it, but to be honest, I really couldn’t give a shit about the specifics of Dragon Rider’s identity one way or the other because I think drag’s an insufferable shit-stirrer. What really pisses me off here though is that you’ve actually made me care about this because in spending all day bitching about how drag’s a shit-stirring troll, you have engaged in precisely the behaviour that can make drag such a… drag.

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              “Gravity is just made up too.”

              I apologize profusely for taking this argument seriously. The internet was a mistake; turn it off and leave it unplugged 😭

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                “Gravity is just made up too.”

                Yes, it’s made up, just like the entire concept of physics and species are as well. Science is a social construct. That doesn’t mean it has no relation to reality.

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    admin makes a post saying they will enforce the rules around banning people who refuse to use neo pronouns, in a meta community for trans people, and every cis loser has to jump in and play the victim when they get banned for breaking the rules in the post was made to say the rules would be enforced. cry harder.

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    lol. There’s someone getting banned for standing up to a pedophile and here you are whining about someone having a preferred way to be called.

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      It would be, if that were what happened. What actually happened is someone on a trans instance with a non-binary identity (who, i might note, had the username dragonfucker, afaict extending that term to drag’s gender identity is an embellishment) uses neopronouns, some people got butthurt about it and argued with drag about drag’s identity being “real”, and the admin rightfully drew a line in the sand about misgendering people.

      The tl;dr is this dude got told not to intentionally misgender people whether he thinks someone’s identity is valid or not, and he lost his shit over not being allowed to gatekeep queer people on a queer instance and left of his own accord.

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      I legitimately thought better of Blahaj and Ada than this, and it’s very disappointing to see otherwise.

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        Blahaj is terrible, as every hardcore lgbtq+ community. They try to advocate for queer acceptance, but their radical behavior and batshit attitude are actually making them the biggest enemies of queer acceptance. They are helping rightoids sooo much.

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    Dragon is a purity test troll:

    By using absurd conversational standards backed by the reasoning of “nontraditional identification / self”, they troll both you, and mods into playing the purity “jump how high” game. If the mods flinch, and tell them to tone it down, the community will eat them alive. If they call you out, the mod has to pull the trigger.

    I’m not saying the mods are free from blame, but they are so high on their own supply that banning you is the only option.

    Non binary folks deserve respect. Non traditional pronouns are worth respect. The way dragon uses them is a problem because they are inconsistent with any logic… They use them semantically wrong

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    i love drag, and i don’t think about drag half as much as all the weird fuckers who get SO worked up about drag all the fucken time

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      I don’t even remember the last time I had an interaction with drag, but when the admins come down on the side of “Dragonfucker IS a gender and questioning that is ban-worthy”, I find it a sign to move on.

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        “moving on” would be not continuing to complain about it, but you do you babe 💖

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          Despite not being shy in the least about coming here, I didn’t come here to kvetch until comments on my final/leaving post in 196, which was not where the discussion originated, were removed for the offenses - as the OP shows - of ‘citing the modlog as a reason why you’re leaving’ and ‘I prefer they/them but I will use neopronouns as requested’, both of which I felt were sufficiently irritating to warrant bitching about.

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            god you really fell off. have fun being upset i guess!

            e: extending those well-wishes to anyone downvoting this, PLEASE continue to be stupid and belligerent about this! it’s a really easy way to filter y’all out of communities that you would only ever shit-stir anyways! 😊