https://lemmy.world/comment/15319695

I’m guessing they did this because my comment didn’t have the correct positive vibes for them on their post when they’re the moderator.

It’s funny because 196 and almost all of its derivatives are rightfully anti-tankie because tankies promote centrism and conservatism directly harmful to trans and gay rights.

  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    6 hours ago

    Yes that’s the point. Marx isn’t concerned with cultural expression outside of how it’s used inside class relations. Which is why it’s inane to point to ‘the culture of marxism’, because outside of that narrow materialist context marxism doesn’t concern itself with culture.

    So now we’ve moved on from “it has no real way of comparing cultural qualities because it’s a materialist worldview” to “Marxism doesn’t have a culture”, which isn’t even close to what was said and what I objected to.

    • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialEnglish
      12·
      6 hours ago

      Unless you’re planning on articulating what it is you’re actually objecting to I can’t really help you make sense of those two statements.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        6 hours ago

        Marxism being an explicitly a materialist worldview does not mean that it has no real way of comparing cultural qualities.

        • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialEnglish
          12·
          5 hours ago

          Outside of how they relate to material conditions, it doesn’t.

          It can’t help inform your gender identity any more than it can help you decide what toppings to put on your pizza. Attributing that kind of cultural expression to an ideology that has nothing to say about it isn’t just dumb, it’s fascistic.

          • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            5 hours ago

            Outside of how they relate to material conditions, it doesn’t.

            What part of culture can’t be related to material conditions, again? I’m pretty sure that’s the point of materialism.

            I guess basic concepts are too complex to parse. Sorry for overtaxing you.

            It can’t help inform your gender identity any more than it can help you decide what toppings to put on your pizza.

            “It can’t tell you what your preferences are, therefore, it has no way of comparing cultural qualities.”

            Jesus fucking Christ.