https://lemmy.world/comment/15319695
I’m guessing they did this because my comment didn’t have the correct positive vibes for them on their post when they’re the moderator.
It’s funny because 196 and almost all of its derivatives are rightfully anti-tankie because tankies promote centrism and conservatism directly harmful to trans and gay rights.
You used a white supremacist dog whistle that’s been rampantly popular among the far-right for years. You say you didn’t know that, but with how often it’s used, I don’t think that’s a very believable excuse.
If this wasn’t a BPR by you, then at the very least YDI.
The meme used a white supremacist dog whistle and I interpreted the words as their literal meaning instead of their dog whistle meaning, but the fact remains that my comment was very clearly and very consistently anti-tankie which is absolutely a core belief of 196.
Yea, but the problem is that there is no different literal meaning from the dog whistle. What would ‘cultural Marxism’ even mean to a Marxist?
Nobody is questioning your anti-tankie bona-fides here. We’re pointing to the irony of someone trying hard to otherize tankies from other leftists accidentally appropriating a term that’s pretty much exclusively used to malign both for the acceptance of LGBTQ expression.
Belonging to a cultural group who believes in the political ideology of Marxism. What part of that sounds like something White Supremacists cooked up? You absolutely require context to understand this is a play on “Cultural Bolshevism” which was just code for Jews.
Yea, see, that’s the problem - both of those terms are intended to describe a ‘culture’ of acceptance/normalization of lgbtq and non-traditional expression and associate it with the revolutionary language of Marx - the implication being that Marxists are intentionally pushing those norms and values as a part of their revolutionary action.
All of which is relevant to the actual content of the original post - either you simply missed the whole point of the meme or you’ve accepted the premise of the term itself.
You interpreted the words as their literal meaning? And pray tell me, what is their literal meaning? The words don’t mean anything except as a dog whistle. Explain to me how you looked at those two words together, and thought, yeah, that’s a normal phrase that’s said.
culture /kŭl′chər/
noun
The arts, beliefs, customs, institutions, and other products of human work and thought considered as a unit, especially with regard to a particular time or social group.
These arts, beliefs, and other products considered with respect to a particular subject or mode of expression.
The set of predominating attitudes and behavior that characterize a group or organization.
marxism
noun
The socialist philosophy and political program developed by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels. Any social or political philosophy or ideology derived from the thought of Karl Marx.
Right, now stop being cute and tell me what those words mean in the context of each other. Define cultural Marxism. If they’re normal words, surely you know what they mean together.
Idk how you’re not understanding this. Did you think I was just being dramatic when I said literal and therefor meant metaphorical?
Marxism is explicitly a materialist worldview - it has no real way of comparing cultural qualities
Unless you just mean ‘the culture of marxists’, but then you’ve pretty much taken up the term in its original meaning. Especially since the original post is about transgenter identity…
Jesus fucking Christ. Every time I think I’ve seen peak tankie stupidity, a new gem emerges.
The only point in which Marx comments on cultural practices is to point to how it is used to reinforce labor relations with capital.
If there’s any definitive ‘culture’ to Marx it’s more broadly counter-traditional than anything specific.
lmfao
It’s an ideology
ideologies are inherently culture
Thumbs are fingers but fingers aren’t all thumbs.