• Sʏʟᴇɴᴄᴇ@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    5·
    2 hours ago

    I have multiple notes apps but one thing that’s prevented me from ditching keep is that I have dozens of old notes which I’d like to transfer to the replacement app.

    I’m pretty tech savvy but have had a look and couldn’t find an easy way to export my notes from keep. Anyone have any advice?

    • hasanhaja@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      2 hours ago

      I’ve spent a lot of time manually moving my notes into Obsidian. Not done yet but it’s quite therapeutic when I sit down to do and I rediscover a lot of cool things I decided to jot down years ago

  • Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    2·
    2 hours ago

    I switched from Win10 to Fedora Linux yesterday. Any recommendations for a note taking app that runs locally on my computer? I know nothing about Linux but I got upset because Windows started showing ads on my login screen.

  • Scary le Poo@beehaw.org
    4·
    3 hours ago

    I started out using obsidian and it’s pretty decent, but honestly Joplin is my favorite so far.

    I tried logseq and absolutely fucking hated it.

  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    3·
    14 hours ago

    I just store my notes locally. Using QOwnNotes currently as I looked at a list of FOSS options and picked what I liked the look of. Manage my own backups already so just included the notes.

  • stray@pawb.social
    2·
    16 hours ago

    After looking at Notesnook, I don’t really understand the difference. It has features that Google Keep lacks, but if the company were to shut down their servers I would lose anything not stored locally, right? If I delete a file on one device it’s presumably removed from the others upon sync, so couldn’t they remotely delete my files from any connected device if they wanted to?

    I don’t understand encryption in the first place, so this is probably an ignorant question, but can’t the company that runs the software choose to release the encryption keys anyway? My understanding is that encryption only protects my data from interception by a third party.

    Assuming I’m not wrong on those points, isn’t it better to only store files locally, and to share them either on physical media or via a service which won’t store the files long-term? Is the issue of leaked or lost data not inherent in any hosting service?

    Sorry if everything I’m saying is really stupid. I’m not trying to troll or argue in favor of Google services or anything. I just don’t understand how to evaluate any given service’s trustworthiness or safety.

    e: I just thought to check whether Google Keep is encrypted and the internet says it is. Now I extra don’t get it. Very confused.

    • Robust Mirror@aussie.zone
      5·
      16 hours ago

      Regarding encryption, some companies hold the encryption keys, but many, including Notesnook, use end-to-end encryption. This means the encryption happens on your device and the keys are generated from your password and stored locally rather than on the company’s servers.

      In that scenario the company never has access to the keys in the first place, so they wouldn’t be able to release them even if they wanted to.

      Google Keep on the other hand does not use end-to-end encryption for your notes. While it does use encryption to protect data both during transmission and while stored on its servers, Google retains the ability to access the content of your notes. This means that although your data is safeguarded against external threats, Google’s internal systems can still access your information.

    • ArchRecord@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      2 hours ago

      Seconded. I’m not terribly happy it’s closed-source, but the team seems quite ethical in their approach to software development and user privacy, and for anyone not in the know about Obsidian, the big highlights that still make it worth it for me are:

      • Markdown formatted notes (standard format you can port across many different kinds of apps, especially useful as an exit strategy if Obsidian ever enshittifies)
      • Plugins & Themes (Add basically any arbitrary functionality or looks you need, from structured query languages to analyze your notes, to automatic image format converters)
      • Note Linking (being able to link your notes like so: [[Name of Note]] (shows as Name of Note in reading mode) so you can easily structure your knowledge, and build relationships between notes
    • Marighost@lemm.ee
      6·
      21 hours ago

      And with Obsidian I still own my files, which are just in markdown and can be read by literally any other program.

  • irishPotato@sh.itjust.works
    21·
    3 hours ago

    I’ve never used a proper note taking app, but recently started using Tana (Startup, free-to-use with some limitations after giving a credit card and cancelling during a two week trial).

    It’s not open source and it only supports full HTML bulleted list or a heavily proprietary JSON format (which is kinda useless outside Tana) exports. Also most of the paid features are AI BS which I don’t mind missing out on, but there are file-size limits on the free version.

    However, I’m finding the UX and features so far amazing! It’s got easy relationships and a tagging hierarchy systems to which you can add fields and it supports a whole bunch of view options and query stuff. You can scroll through this 46 min YT video to get a feel for it!

    Edit: forgot to mention at time pf writing (felt it was implied I guess), it’s cloud only, no local, one of the reasons I feel it’s not ideal

      • irishPotato@sh.itjust.works
        11·
        3 hours ago

        Wow, chill, I stated how it’s not in line with the community. Just thought it was worth the mention as I quite like it, it’s got plenty of UX and features I would love to see in a FOS offering but just haven’t!

        I’m part of the community even though I’m not a zealot, in this specific instance I’m very consciously sacrificing a bit of privacy for what I consider a better UX.

        My thinking was that best case someone more in the know would point out an app that’s just as good or better and offers the lacking privacy…

    • hikaru755@lemmy.world
      1·
      16 hours ago

      Same boat here, recently discovered tana and its whole model is amazing. It’s fixing most of the things that bothered me a lot in Obsidian and Notion, respectively. I don’t want to go back to a service where I don’t have file-based control over my own data though, so now I’m seriously considering building something on my own that takes the mental model of tana, but implements it local-first based on regular files like Obsidian

      • something_random_tho@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        24 hours ago

        Unlike every other note app I’ve ever used, you don’t need to organize things manually or manage an organizational hierarchy (like folders, etc). That’s where I always fall over in other apps, eventually. Organization happens automatically in Logseq.

        It gives you a new, date-stamped journal entry everyday, and you jot down notes in that. You can link to other pages just by adding a hashtag or using 2 square brackets around some text. Each link/hashtag is automatically given its own page, and if you visit it, you’ll see all your mentions of this page, neatly organized in a chronological order by the date. So think about daily work on a project/goal, or anything around a specific topic, all of it is automatically organized for you.

        Under the hood, all the links form a graph and Logseq is backed by a graph database, so it visualizes this graph for you and gives you some powerful querying tools on top of it too.

  • DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world
    2·
    24 hours ago

    I have a Synology NAS which has the DS Note app which gives you self-hosted cloud notes on mobile. It’s not the best app but it’s better than google

  • belastend@slrpnk.net
    1·
    23 hours ago

    I found no replacement for notion that uses this block structure. I love it, but notion sucks so much aaaaaaassss. I wanna move, but every export feature breaks something in my structure and i hate it :(

    • JC1@lemmy.ca
      1·
      10 hours ago

      I’m looking into this also. The closest I found is Siyuan notes. I’m trying to setup the sync during the trial period.

  • peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    3·
    1 day ago

    Is this really true about Keep? I mean, I know it’s a Google product, but is it really that insecure? I’ve never heard much negative stuff about it.

    • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl
      2·
      16 hours ago

      Your notes are (or at least were 4 years ago when I last used it) stored in plaintext on your gmail under the notes tag. You don’t hear negative stuff about it because 99% of people don’t use notes for sensitive info, or even things they care about. It is also not a high profile app like messaging apps. It is just something everyone assumes is completely fine.

  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
    1·
    24 hours ago

    What’s everyone’s goto app for sharing notes with others? I’m looking for something to share grocery lists and whatnot with my SO, and I want as little friction as possible.

    I have some self-hosted services, but I didn’t like NextCloud notes and one or two others I’ve tried. It doesn’t need to be fancy, but I would very much like checkboxes that I can… check. I don’t need users, and honestly, no user accounts could be super nice, just attach a URL and go for it.

    So yeah, slight preference for self-hostable services, but I’m fine with anything, provided it’s reasonably privacy friendly (nobody else needs to know the quantity or size of our sex toys lol).

  • Lucy :3@feddit.org
    3·
    1 day ago

    I chose Nextcloud Notes because I already have it anyway, and it’s good enough for me.

    • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
      4·
      1 day ago

      Just a friendly reminder that if you use an external nextcloud, that it is most likely unencrypted. The recommendations in the post body (or my own, like using https://cryptpad.fr/) are probably a better choice if you are not self hosting nextcloud yourself.

      However if you are self hosting it, it should be fine 👍 KIM these are just recommendations :)

    • LWD@lemm.ee
      1·
      22 hours ago

      Why not Cryptpad?

      They took some decent software and added collaboration features on top