Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain’t dead. Remember, don’t downvote for disagreements.

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    1 day ago

    I can read the book, but… I just don’t understand how leftism can be successful without followers.

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      23 hours ago

      That doesn’t make sense. You need to start with a correct historical and material analysis before you can approach anything else. Socialism is based on dialectical materialism, not gaining ‘followers’. Leftism is not a religion that aims to have many converts but rather should understand why neocolonialism and other such institutions would deincentivize white people from being leftists in the United States in the first place.

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        16 hours ago

        It’s all well and good for leftist individuals to achieve that understanding, but how can we effect change without more of the population being swayed to this ideology?

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          15 hours ago

          You still haven’t achieved that understanding. Ideology does not come about from ‘convincing’ or ‘swaying’ anyone. I once again suggest you to read Settlers to see why this thought process is flawed. I understand where you are coming from but the material precedes the immaterial

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            12 hours ago

            Ideology does not come about from ‘convincing’ or ‘swaying’ anyone.

            Tell that to the propaganda model. False consciousness is a real barrier which can, and has, dominated material class interests.

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              Propaganda functions with a pre-supposition of the initial dominance of the material over the immaterial. People are functionally motivated to accept specific ideological and social viewpoints where the material state encouraging that comes first. I think this article makes an interesting case for why this general concept is non-Marxist: https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/