Kate is an OS app. When you install your distro, it’s there.

I don’t think any of that matters, tbh.

Well then you’d be wrong about that. Sorry.

You’re sounding like one of those people that says “ummm ackshully it’s GNU + Linux, not Linux”

Yes, you can have a desktop without a desktop environment. Well done. Nobody does that in the desktop space. Kate is an OS program.

If you install a distro with KDE, you will have Kate. It’s an OS program.

Case in point, you can install Kate, and Dolphin, on FreeBSD. And on Windows.

Pahahaha, that’s not what defines whether a program is an OS one or not. You can run paint on Linux if you wanted to. Based on your definition, Paint therefore isn’t part of the Windows app suite.

Let’s get back on topic - do you think a normal user will hear “Kate” and think “ah, that must be the text editor!”, do you think they’ll hear “Dolphin” and think “ah, that must be a file manager of some kind!”?

It literally is. It’s part of the KDE Plasma desktop. It comes preinstalled.

The Vim, nano command line text editors also being there doesn’t mean Kate isn’t an OS app.

Would you say the Dolphin file explorer isn’t an OS/system app on the basis that you can use commands like cd, mv, cp, pwd in terminal? Because I certainly wouldn’t.

Programs that we think of as being part of the OS, such as the included text editor, is a very different thing to something like Steam, imo.

Steam isn’t preinstalled on your PC, it’s not a core part of your desktop OS. You download Steam yourself, so you’d only do it once you already know what it is.

Third party apps kinda need unique names and branding like that to distinguish themselves.

A newbie won’t know what “Kate” or “Okular” do. They might know what “Dolphin” does because it has a folder as the app icon (although users of screen readers won’t see that). They will probably know what “Notepad” or “Text Editor” does, though.

I like Kate as a program but man KDE need to change how some of their app names appear in Plasma.

A new user looking through their start menu and seeing “Kate” will have no idea it’s a text editor/notepad. The same is true for multiple other programs.

Okular, Dolphin, Cantata… ask someone who’s never tried Plasma before what those programs do and I’d wager you’d get an incorrect answer for each one.

I’m frequently told that Linux is hard and you need to be a tech guru to use it, yet every week I see 1-2 articles of issues in windows you need to do some bullshit to fix, and in my own use of it I’ve ran into issues (especially after doing an update) that I just don’t run into on Linux or MacOS.