This may be relevant

• https://www.keytos.io/blog/passwordless/how-much-does-a-yubikey-cost.html

Well, it’s probably easier than farm work or roofing.

What about the Hummer EV? Horribly inefficient but a ridiculously large battery to drag 10,000 pounds around. Surely that could carry some armor

Why not? While our government is treating other countries and their people worse, it’s not as uncalled for. While most of the chaos is self-instigated for very little reason, there’s just no logic to attacking Canada and so many reasons not to.

It’s like saying we have a nice neighbor who we’ve always got along with and who always helps out, but it’s not worth apologizing for spitting in their face for no reason, because we started a fire at that house down the street with the family whose customs we don’t understand

Worst case scenario, call support to put a credit card on file with your account. This is what I did when I ran into problems with the app (turns out I was too eager trying to use it before they were done setting me up).

When you use a supercharger, at least as a Tesla, there is a handshake where your car identifies what account to use, then it just works

You definitely lose a lot of convenience features if you don’t use the app, but I believe you can do it, if you want it enough

Edit: just use a web browser. I verified I can login through my web browser to manage my account, my products, my payment method. Not the car features though. I have no idea if this is new, but just use any web browser

Bad example. Tesla chargers don’t use an app, they assume you have an account set up with a credit card on file. Most people do that through the app but I don’t think you have to. Once it’s set up, it just works with no further interaction.

Or are you doing this as a non-Tesla customer? Yeah that’s not as smooth yet

Well, my old company sure made a ridiculous profit selling them. You may be looking at the cost per fob hardware, but not including the management cost. They are much more expensive than an authentication app, plus authentication apps are mostly managed by someone else, and you don’t have distribution overhead

Presumably they’re expensive and someone needs to manage them.

My company’s approach is “we’ll pay your phone bill if you use an Authenticator app on your phone.” Cheaper for them, plus they don’t need to buy company phones or fobs, and who’s going to complain about their phone bill getting paid?

A previous company tried similar but required putting your phone under enterprise management. A lot of us disagreed with that

When I was 20, I also didn’t comprehend that you could have incomplete data so assumed the real world was wrong.

Imagine dealing with data tracking hundreds of millions of people across multiple generations starting from before the time of computers and having to deal with the reality of missing or lost data/documentation. We can’t confirm your birthdate because that hospital burned down 80 years ago? FRAUD. /s