• Chuck Schumer, Senate Minority Leader. Said he would vote no on the maga funding bills… then the next day changed his mind like the coward he is.

      In current Senate Rules, 60 votes are needed to end discussion (aka: cloture) in order to prceed to a vote. republicans only have a simple majority so they would need a few democrats in order to pass the bill. But Chuck the Cuck just told the democrats to vote yes.

      🤦‍♂️

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        I used to think it was a conspiracy theory that Democrats were controlled opposition but the way they shoot themselves in the foot over and over… It can’t be a coincidence that they keep making the worst choices constantly.

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    It’s fucking sickening. This is the one piece of meaningful power they have until the midterms, and Republicans didn’t even bother consulting them.

    Now they want to give it up, for what? A pinky promise they’ll play nice? To make sure Trump doesn’t get ammunition to blame Democrats for everything?

    Fucking coward.

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    The GOP is actively dismantling the government. Why would they care about a government shutdown?

    Seems stupid to try to threaten them with one.

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      They’re shutting down humanitarianism.

      State control/violence and wider imperialism will continue to be fully funded.

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      The point isn’t threatening a shutdown; the point is not endorsing the ceding of Congress’s budget authority to Trump (which is what voting to support the continuing resolution would do).

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      Why would they care about a government shutdown?

      Because for all their talk they need at least some parts of the government to work. That’s why they’re recalling employees all over.

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        No, it’ll throw them for a loop. Fucking musk got social security records and thought every entry was getting payments, despite many being dead. The dumb fuck didn’t even check their status before crying fraud - which is a serious crime that must be investigated

        The records contain everyone who ever got it, dead or alive

        These people are imbeciles. These chuckle fucks are struggling to accomplish their goals with unlimited power, you think they could navigate a shut down government?

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          I think it might be easier for them to access closed buildings and servers. I think it makes it easier for them to shut down agencies they don’t like, such as the department of education. And I doubt the federal workers would get back pay this time as they have in the past.

          The shutdown would screw a lot of people. The CR could be worse. And the Democrats, as usual, are left to be the only adults in the room. Yeah , the Republicans might eat more blame, questionably, but a lot of people would get hurt regardless.

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            It’s 2 months into a trump presidency. I don’t care how a shutdown reflects on the dnc. With all the dumb shit the gop does in the next 2 years this will be forgotten by next wednesday. The dnc’s polling is trash and their donors are fleeing, why even count on being able to legitimately win another election? God knows they haven’t changed a damn thing.

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        Ridiculous to use that as “politically weakening Democrats” excuse. Get zero, so that destroying government during shutdown, instead of at a slightly slower pace, somehow gets blamed on Democrats???

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      Not to mention, they’ve consistently threatened us with shutdowns up until now, so the democrats threatening one won’t work. Heck, they would revel in democrats using something from their playbook.

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        That’s a non-sequitor. Threatening a government shutdown only works when the other guys are in charge. Right now the GOP is in charge, so they have to worry about government shutdowns.

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      Because they want to spend that money on their friends’ companies. That’s why they care.

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    Call your senators, they can still block this despite Schumers push. The vote is tomorrow morning. If all republican vote for it, they need 7 dems. 8 with Rand Paul who has said he’ll vote no. (Republicans are not using reconciliation so it needs the the filibuster)

    Many senate dems are publicly coming out against voting for cloture (meaning they won’t vote to let it get through the filibuster). As of what I last read, around 10 dems are thought to potentially vote to let it pass filibuster. Most of those are still not sure. We only need a handful more of those to become noes and it will get blocked. Some yeses have flipped to noes because of public pressure. We cannot let up now

    Link to find direct numbers your senators

    https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm

    Or call the capitol switch board (202) 224-3121

    House dems are publicly telling the senate not to do this (and it’s not just AOC on this - it’s quite a few of them). Earlier read that 7 Dem state AGs are saying the same. Federal worker unions are telling senate dems not do this. Keep the pressure up

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      What I was thinking is that Trump and Musk are very unpopular partly because they are firing all the state workers. Many veterans. If Democrats shut down the government, the blame will be reversed. Democrats will be blamed for putting state workers out of work.

      And besides, shutting down the government is literally what Trump wants. He could claim the victim (as he loves to do) while getting exactly what he wants.

      Is this similar to your point?

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        A total shutdown is far more likely to hurt trump and the Republicans. The Democrats by supporting this are letting certain Republicans oppose it.

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          I have heard that government shutdowns are usually blamed on the party that forced the shutdown. Ie democrats in this scenario.

          Now, we all believe Musk and Trump are a threat that needs to be stopped at all costs, so a government shutdown would be good. But how will the average American view it?

          Honestly, your napoleon quote seemed very much in favor of not shutting the government down. Let Trump keep making mistakes.

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              Ok, I agree with you, but the majority of americas do not. Which is my point. Every time Republicans shut down the government using your logic, they were the ones that ended up suffering in the end.

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                You have no clue what the majority of Americans think. Shutdown or no shutdown any strife will be pinned to democrats. That’s how this works. Don’t play coy. Democrats do nothing but horde political capital. If they don’t ever spend it, it goes away.

                What I’m looking at is in 4 years, will the GOP be able to claim they made the country better? I don’t care how it happens if this country doesn’t ‘feel’ like they are in a better place there is a reckoning coming for the GOP.

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                  You think Chuck Schumer has no idea what the majority of Americans want? You think he doesn’t have databases of internal polling numbers that show him how people will likely react to this?

                  It’s weird cause that napoleon quote was so fitting for what I am saying. Let Trump keep making his own bed. The American people are reacting negatively towards Trump, not Democrats.

                  Anecdotally, my dad has been sending me anti Trump memes. He’s always been right wing, but not maga. So we haven’t talked politics in years and all of a sudden he is vocally anti trump.

                  The momentum is against Trump now. If Schumer shuts the government down there will be finger pointing on both sides. If he keeps it open and lets Trump keep fucking up, the people that have Trump the election will be less likely to show up in the midterms.

                  Anyway, we are just 2 random people that ultimately don’t know what we’re talking about. I’m just giving the case Schumer is likely considering.

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            GOP never loses votes over their BS. It is not BS to not cave to GOP, on only legislative chance to get anything at all from them.

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              But what would we get from them? They want the government shut down. This is exactly what Musk is doing with all his firings. It would be a win-win for Trump. Shut down the infrastructure, “save money”, cry victim.

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                Push, with Dem support, a clean CR. Giving Trump unchecked power to destroy America would normally give “political points” to those who think it is a bad idea. Using the shutdown, and refusal/veto of clean CR, to destroy America might still let congress including GOP to try and stop it, instead of giving Trump those unchecked powers to never be questioned on it.

                Absurd to take blame for corrupt GOP media dominance.