I’m not the one deflecting. You never answered my question: should the concerns of non-trans people also matter to the Left?
Yes, this thread is about trans issues, specifically the question of whether or not trans women should be allowed to participate in women’s sports. Do you realize how privileged you have to be for that to be a major concern? Poverty, destitution, illness, these are problems that millions of people face everyday, yet you won’t even acknowledge them because “that’s not what this thread is about.” You’re no Leftist.
You never answered my question: should the concerns of non-trans people also matter to the Left?
I’m sure they matter to you. Particularly the concerns of charlie kirk and his bestie gavin newsom.
Do you realize how privileged you have to be for that to be a major concern?
I know enough trans people so it’s personal, but it also speaks to a pattern of behavior within the centrist wing of the democratic party. Trans athletes are just the most recent group that democrats have thrown under the bus for the unmitigated delight of hearing the thumping sounds.
Poverty, destitution, illness, these are problems that millions of people face everyday
And your wing of the party has made it crystal clear that they are uninterested in helping anyone poorer than the “good billionaires” they toady up to.
I don’t know why you keep bringing up Charlie Kirk. I know next to nothing about him, I don’t listen to him. I don’t know, or care what he thinks about, well, much of anything, really.
And your wing of the party has made it crystal clear that they are uninterested in helping anyone poorer than the “good billionaires” they toady up to.
It’s not my wing of the party. I don’t have a party, which is why I said I wanted to build a new Leftist movement: one that is interested in the concerns of the working class people. But, what folks like you don’t understand, is that most working class people are not concerned about whether or not trans women are allowed to participate in women’s sports. They are concerned about paying their rent, feeding their families, affording medical care, and other day-to-day, material issues. I choose to focus on those issues. You can focus on whatever you want, I don’t care. My new Leftist movement won’t include people like you, because you’re not helping anyone, and I don’t think you care to. You would accept widespread harm, so long as you could go on performing as a social justice advocate.
I have nothing more to say to you. I’m really not interested in reading another one of your vapid, banal responses about Charlie Kirk, or whatever other nonsense you might come up with. I’m going to go actually try to make the world a better place.
I don’t know why you keep bringing up Charlie Kirk. I know next to nothing about him, I don’t listen to him. I don’t know, or care what he thinks about, well, much of anything, really.
Because he was in the article. You read the article, right?
You can focus on whatever you want, I don’t care.
You’re pretty angry for someone who doesn’t care.
My new Leftist movement won’t include people like you, because you’re not helping anyone, and I don’t think you care to.
I think we can help people without throwing vulnerable minorities under the bus like you advocate for. The democratic party does that plenty already, and I have no doubt that once you’ve stripped support for trans people, you’ll find some other group to advocate throwing under the bus instead of trying to do anything about poverty.
I’m not the one deflecting. You never answered my question: should the concerns of non-trans people also matter to the Left?
Yes, this thread is about trans issues, specifically the question of whether or not trans women should be allowed to participate in women’s sports. Do you realize how privileged you have to be for that to be a major concern? Poverty, destitution, illness, these are problems that millions of people face everyday, yet you won’t even acknowledge them because “that’s not what this thread is about.” You’re no Leftist.
I’m sure they matter to you. Particularly the concerns of charlie kirk and his bestie gavin newsom.
I know enough trans people so it’s personal, but it also speaks to a pattern of behavior within the centrist wing of the democratic party. Trans athletes are just the most recent group that democrats have thrown under the bus for the unmitigated delight of hearing the thumping sounds.
And your wing of the party has made it crystal clear that they are uninterested in helping anyone poorer than the “good billionaires” they toady up to.
They do. The question is: do they matter to you?
I don’t know why you keep bringing up Charlie Kirk. I know next to nothing about him, I don’t listen to him. I don’t know, or care what he thinks about, well, much of anything, really.
It’s not my wing of the party. I don’t have a party, which is why I said I wanted to build a new Leftist movement: one that is interested in the concerns of the working class people. But, what folks like you don’t understand, is that most working class people are not concerned about whether or not trans women are allowed to participate in women’s sports. They are concerned about paying their rent, feeding their families, affording medical care, and other day-to-day, material issues. I choose to focus on those issues. You can focus on whatever you want, I don’t care. My new Leftist movement won’t include people like you, because you’re not helping anyone, and I don’t think you care to. You would accept widespread harm, so long as you could go on performing as a social justice advocate.
I have nothing more to say to you. I’m really not interested in reading another one of your vapid, banal responses about Charlie Kirk, or whatever other nonsense you might come up with. I’m going to go actually try to make the world a better place.
Because he was in the article. You read the article, right?
You’re pretty angry for someone who doesn’t care.
I think we can help people without throwing vulnerable minorities under the bus like you advocate for. The democratic party does that plenty already, and I have no doubt that once you’ve stripped support for trans people, you’ll find some other group to advocate throwing under the bus instead of trying to do anything about poverty.