• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    Not really. We chose this.

    The American people are, on average, fascist dipshits.

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      20 hours ago

      31%. I’d argue the other 69% aren’t, and are largely just confused and checked out.

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        17 hours ago

        But why. Why are they checked out?

        You can blame it on a lot of things, but it always just comes down to ideology, the kind of passive shit like pay scales being taboo or putting up with parochialism or letting advertising everywhere slide.

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          17 hours ago

          Probably because no matter who wins the election, all the stuff you just mentioned doesn’t change anyway. People feel powerless. Everyone’s broke and worked to death. There’s no more mental bandwidth for politics. Politics is an alien subject for a lot of people.

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            16 hours ago

            Yes, exactly: politics being an alien subject is the result of ideology. It’s deeply ideological. It must be addressed in day to day interactions and in culture and by educators and at kitchen tables. No one can fix it but the individual pushing forward together with friends.

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              16 hours ago

              It’s not conscious on the part of most. The vast majority of folks are ignorant to the effects of politics on their lives, again because their lived experience shows that it doesn’t matter to how they live their lives.

              People get together and go to church every weekend because it’s what they grew up doing. They don’t question because questions got you beat or yelled at. So they live their lives in the manner that chafes less. Anything that upsets the very delicate balance of their lives gets ignored, because paying attention to it risks an upheaval of how they live their lives.

              Sure, there are plenty that cross the line into actually believing that the Nazis in power are okay, but most honestly don’t care. They don’t vote, say they did to the one friend they have that cares, and move on. Most don’t even consume news, much less read articles. They’re ignorant.

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                  16 hours ago

                  I’m only saying what I’ve observed, not that I personally feel that way. If anything, I probably over-consume political content and right now I’m pissed the fuck off that we had two world wars over this shit and we can’t seem to get rid of the Nazis.

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                16 hours ago

                Yes, ideology has to be actively and persuasively countered by those who are more objective.

                Which is why people are so irritated by all the us citizens posting “don’t blame me!”

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              9 hours ago

              The elections over. It’s time to stop blaming voters and blame the Democrats, who even now are strategizing to move even further right and resist anything leftist even harder. They want to “get away from the dominance of small-donors that might not align with the broader electorate”

              Just glance over this shit

              We are being oppressed. On one side you have fascists, on the other you have a right wing party willing to dip their toe into Fascism so the oligarchs will pick them next time. It’s no wonder people check out

              People will get unalienated when they have a chance to fight for their lives to get better, not just slow down the speed at which it gets worse. We need to pick a third party, and we need to start rallying behind it now, not just before an election

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      22 hours ago

      Ah, my painful, and depressed upvote. It’s the most inconvenient truth that we have collectively chosen this. Sure, our elections aren’t exactly fair, and there’s a lot of bias, but the failure to clearly and decisively reject him is a failure of the people.

      I most certainly did not vote for him, but most of the people who did vote in my state, well, they chose it on purpose.