I already made some people mad by suggesting that I would I would make by computer run an ollama model. I suggested that they make a counter AI bot to find these accounts that don’t disclose they’re bots. What’s lemmy opinion of Ai coming into fediverse?
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I’m sympathetic.
But… What exactly would you use them for? Spam detection would be quite expensive, in other cases it’s basically a writing assistant for a human response.
If you’re talking about the counter AI measures I’m curious if they exist and I want to implement them in a bit that makes human like responses. But the AI I’m curious if it can the turing test
If I wanted to interact with AI content I would be on Reddit.
Ew.
For starters, do you have reason to believe a large number of Lemmy users are legitimately bots, or is this just a thing where you saw someone with a different opinion? Lemmy overall is aligned in being generally anti-AI.
If it added value then I wouldn’t be opposed. But I don’t see what value AI could possibly add to a social network. Some specific fields, like researchers combing through large data sets, have benefitted from AI. Every other place it’s been shoehorned into has suffered for it.
If you see a problem and realize AI could address it, then that’s fantastic. If you’re coming at it from the other direction and looking for problems then you’re going to waste everyone’s time.
AI actually makes it so computers can process language. I had two issues one is tracking police based on where they are and the other is detecting live streams post is a live stream post and it’s hard to process abstract concepts like that so you get the LLM to make the determination. Beats going through all the data yourself and figuring out edge cases
I’m of the tilt that it’s spam if it’s not providing a service. I don’t want comment sections covered in vapid muck.
“People are mad I want to make a spam bot”
I stopped caring what other people think. Especially when they can’t say why they’re mad
I think they’re mad that you want to make a spam bot?
In this case that probably it, but I mean in general. You can calmly ask an angry person if alternative X is okay and they berrate you, accuse you, or talk in a way that makes no sense then you just ignore them.
Has AI improved where it has been implemented? I don’t think it has.
I’d say yes like it’s hard to program language processing, plus it helps get information pretty fast
While I am an AI enthusiast, generative AI has two issues that make it very hard to accept here
One is definitely the fact that we all know they have been trained using our data without our informed consent, not to mention it bring a typical case where copyright only applies to big companies, it doesn’t really protect individuals.
The second one is simply that we are in a social network. Social. We use it to communicate with people, not to play games or take part in experiments. It’s like using comments to a question for statistical purposes, you have to tell people they are taking part in it.
Here we want to discuss daily life, politics and hobbies with other people, forming opinions based on what other people think, and spending time and energy to explain our positions to other people. If the other end is a machine, how is this different from an NPC from an RPG game?
So, I guess the only way to go for it is to have separate communities that specifically allow AI bots, making sure people know about it so they take part if they are willing. Ofc we can expect some instances deciding to cut ties with AI filled ones, it’s up to them to decide.
I don’t condemn objects for the things people do with them. Like knives or TNT or nuclear energy AI can be used to make things better for people or worse. It just depends on who is using it and how.
I don’t have any problem with AI myself. It’s a tool like any other. What we should be focusing on is promoting positive uses of this tech instead.
we need to be able to verify humans on all instances
everyone else could be a bot
The million drachma question, though, is how.
The entire Internet will need some way to validate that a given user is a human and not a bot, but in practice it’s becoming increasingly more impossible.
I thought about using legalese or old obscure phrases from 100 years ago (maybe even old English) in a reply to a bit and seeing how it responds. General not all language is known to a person but an AI wouldn’t be stumped (maybe). If we found AI they would get better to the point were they’re human like and after that it’s like "oh well we got ai citizens of the Internet ’
there are several government gateways that provide that service using an up to date passport for example
Kill it to death. With hammers.
We have some cracking communities for AI images –
The moral panic where the hivemind loves-to-hate AI won’t last, I just tune it out.
I love genAI and I play with it all the time. I also use it to generate inspiration for my art. I’d never suggest releasing a model to the Fediverse.
