Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy stated he is willing to resign if it ensures peace or NATO membership for Ukraine.

“If it is peace for Ukraine, and if you really want me to leave my post, I’m ready,” he said. “Alternatively, I can trade this for NATO membership… I’m focusing on Ukraine’s security today, not in 20 years.”

His comments come amid tensions with Donald Trump, who falsely suggested the Ukrainian president was responsible for starting the war.

Meanwhile, U.S.-Russia negotiations continue without Ukraine, which Zelenskyy firmly rejects. Zelenskyy emphasized the importance of Ukrainian involvement in any peace negotiations.

  • commander@lemmings.world
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    2 days ago

    Time is strongly on Ukraine’s side.

    I don’t think this is the case. You’re ignoring the fact that real people are dying and eventually that’s going to be too much for one side to bear. Right now, it looks like that side is going to be Ukraine. I don’t want it to be the case, but reality is reality.

    So, as you said: Since the Russia’s loss is inevitable, why continue wasting their lives?

    Lol. Honestly, I have no idea what could encourage Russians to start and continue this war. They must be seeing entirely different things than us, which I think we could only see if we spoke Russian and hung out in Russian-speaking areas.

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      2 days ago

      Ukraine’s losses as dead are lower in proportion to population than those of the Russia. As dead+wounded they are higher, but that’s relevant for the army, not so much for the nation. The severely wounded typically need a prosthesis, but will stay in the lives of their children.

      Add to this that Ukraine is the defending party in the war, so they would be able to incur even higher losses without breaking than the aggressor has to bear with.

      If you mean civilian casualties… Most of those are in the occupied territories. The terror attacks do kill people, but that is statistically insignificant. The Russia has been able to kill only a fraction of a percent of Ukraine’s civilian population. That is not something that has any effect on the war’s outcome. The terror attacks against civilians might have some strategic function in Putin’s head, and it does have an effect by reducing western countries’ willingness to support Ukraine, but in Ukraine itself it has no real effect and seems to be happening “just for fun” (as macabre as that sounds).

      The Russia’s army is in much deeper trouble with manpower than that of Ukraine, and civilian population is statistically not in any immediate danger in either country.

      (And I do believe I understand quite okay how the Russian mind works because when I lived in Ukraine, I learned both Russian and Ukrainian languages reasonably well, and can therefore follow their sources in original language)

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        24 hours ago

        I’m russian and I’m not sure, what “russian mind” means. I’m not a part of a hive. Neither are my Ukrainian neighbours.

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          16 hours ago

          No national stereotypes apply to every single individual from that nation. They are rather about statistical likelihoods. In the Russia people are much more likely to be lazy and socially reckless and say “I am not political” as if it was something to be proud of. And also, it shows a lot that they even feel safe to say so. In Finland people typically have mindset, where saying “I stay away from political conversations” would be very shameful. People would not feel socially safe saying that here. In the Russia it is not shameful. And that feature is one of the things that make “a Russian mindset” a useful concept for use in conversations. There are other features typical to people living in the Russia and atypical for others, not only this one thing.

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            16 hours ago

            Fair enough.

            Interesting though, that “national stereotype” is offensive, but “statistical likelihood” suddenly supposed not to be.

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              13 hours ago

              I don’t consider the concept of national stereotypes offensive per se. What I see as offensive is assuming that a random individual is akin to the national stereotype of their culture. Absolutely nobody is.

              If someone considers the whole concept offensive, then that’s their problem and won’t affect my writing.

              Oh, and I did consider it offensive that you assumed I think about stereotypes the way you said. It looks like you based that on a stereotype – assuming that I am alike the stereotypical whatever-you-were-thinking-of.