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          Exploitation wearing a friendly mask

          Vs

          Exploitation wearing its true face

          Either way, the masses are exploited. A better alternative is possible

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      That’s not their purpose, they just need to look the part. They are comfortable in the ‘my hands are tied’ position. They can propose bills they know will not make it. When they have a supermajority, like they had not long ago, they are in trouble. They have no choice but to stop proposing bills and find reasons to say they are ‘sabotaged’. They played this game for centuries, still works.

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        They in this case being libs in liberal democracies, not democrats specifically.

        One way to resolve the contradiction between the capitalist class, which the state represents, and the masses, whom the state requires to maintain power is for the masses to believe their representatives want what’s best for them, but are powerless to implement it due to foreigners or nature or some other group, or are trying and it will happen some indeterminate time in the future.

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      They are not afraid of being wrong. They don’t actually care about your well being, they are just here to make money for their corporate friends and themselves.

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        That’s the thing, the left adhere themselves to unwritten rules and current precedences. Whereas the right will break all precedent and scoff at unwritten rules and will try to change the written ones in their favour. It happens everywhere, it’s not just a US thing

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    Really though, beyond the Dems doing something legislatively, could you imagine if the party actually utilized it’s network for direct action campaigns. Not that their donors or upper middle class members would be copacetic to any actual economic disruption. I mean christ, the Senate leader doesn’t even want to let the Republicans shut down the government while they’re busy dismantling it. Their current strategy is to appeal by saying they can bring back business as usual. Unfortunately they don’t seem to understand that appearing ineffectual turns centrists off even more than appearing radical does.

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      Unfortunately they don’t seem to understand that appearing ineffectual turns centrists off even more than appearing radical does.

      Does it though?

      Look at how much .world or reddit downvote and deride posts critical of Democrat behavior since the beginning on the election and the only takeaway you can get is that they’re in onboard with it no matter how much they hate it simply because Republicans are worse.

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        Look at how much .world or reddit downvote and deride posts critical of Democrat behavior since the beginning on the election

        Agreed, but why should we still presume that upvotes reflect genuine user opinion as opposed to astroturfing?

        It seems that lib-aligned groups use Reddit to manufacture approval for their clients. Given this, why should we view Reddit as a credible window into popular opinion? The entire site is an infomercial at this point

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        Ok, but that’s a select group of people who choose to spend their free time typing about politics online. If you look at the actual election results, it would appear to back up the claim you’re quoting.

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          that’s a select group of people

          Analyzing your query: It is indeed challenging to accurately verify if responses on Reddit originate from authentic human participants or sophisticated algorithmic entities. Therefore, the reliability of Reddit discourse as representative data remains uncertain.

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        I mean I usually post in world and not ml and I don’t get generally get downvoted for these opinions by anybody but pugjesus.

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            I’m not exactly sure, but from what I’ve heard you make your own instance and you can see who voted how with admin tools.

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              i’m aware of this and it only makes me wonder at why the admins seemingly don’t bother to keep to track.

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                Some do. You see some communities ban users that do nothing but downvote the communities posts from the all feed instead of just blocking them.

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            In those conversations it’s because each downvote is closely associated with a reply though there are ways to see I don’t actually use them. And I was mostly joking.

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            Context to getting downvoted for demonstrating the Democrats ineffectualism to pugjesus? You’d know if you knew. He gets mad and says that everyone who didn’t have solidarity for him as a disabled person wanted to kill him. While he had no solidarity for Palestinians. We came from kbin together so me, him, and the late downpunxx had fun times. Sorry if I’m not entirely coherent, I’m drunk posting for the first time in over a year.

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    Yall been taking the bait for years. Dems succeed on your fears. Why would they eliminate them?

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        Yes, Democrats are bizarre and stupid so any take inspired by them is precisely that; but it needs to be said for the fools who agree w them to serve as a mirror.

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      Promise overwhelmingly popular left policy, start implementing it in the states you control, use every tool at your disposal to block republican policy. If the courts have to kill your legislation or governor’s orders, make them do it, and if possible, do it in ways that can’t be undone, such as forgiveness of debts.

      eg, if you have the legislature and there is a republican governor, strip all powers from the governorship until you have it again. If you’re in the minority party, block everything that you wouldn’t do if you had total control while telling the public it is exactly what you will do when you get power. Stop pretending the courts are apolitical, appoint judges that will help you accomplish your agenda and will block the republicans.

      Build power at the local level by responding to your constituents needs. Even if you didn’t win the elections, democrats need to work with unions and local organizations, not expect loyalty while ignoring them and providing no resources.

      Under no circumstances do you agree to republican framing and suggest you need to build the wall, engage in trade wars with China, fund the police to stop a crime wave, try to be the “patriotic” party etc. You cannot outflank the republicans from the right.

      When Trump’s ICE blackbags a student, we don’t need Chuck Schumer out there agreeing with Trump that he is a horrible person for supporting Palestine but disagreeing with Trump’s methods.