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    14 hours ago

    Fuck Elon Musk, Fuck Privatized Flight Control, Fuck the entire Trump Admin

    But in all fairness, they’re intentionally trying to build rockets with cheaper materials, them blowing up is expected for a very long time going forward, and is definitely worth it in the long run. If somebody like Blue Origin were in charge, the fucking Natural Gas rocket company, that would be much worse.

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        SpaceX uses natural gas on anything equipped with a Raptor engine, this is true, but it wasn’t the company’s primary accomplishment or field of research like with Blue Origin.

        It looks like starting with BE-7 Blue Origin started using Hydrogen and are now researching potential nuclear fuel options, I hadn’t even heard of these engines before today, it looks like they’ve never been used outside of testing phase, so I suppose I might have been overly critical.

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            If you read my comment you will see that Blue Origin has primarily developed and sold Natural Gas rocket engines. Blue Origin is the Jeff Bezos owned Fucking Natural Gas Rocket Engine Company. What part about this is unclear to you?

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              The part where your not calling Elon Musk’s fucking natural gas rocket engine company a Fucking Natural Gas Rocket Engine Company

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                SpaceX also had the Merlin, Kestrel, and Falcon series which were LOX/RP-1 fueled and they also had the Draco series which were Hydrazine fuel.

                Fuck both of them, but Blue Origin is most well known for their Natural Gas rocketry.

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        Importantly they use methane because you can generate methane on Mars(especially if you bring some spare hydrogen).

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          We’ve never launched from mars much less have an entire manufacturing plant and refueling station built, so it doesnt really seem pertinent at this juncture to be launching Vulcan rockets and frequent satellites that that technology.

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            54 minutes ago

            They use methane because it’s cheap and light. Any other justification is just bullshit greenwashing.

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            We have flown this experiment on the ISS. It is a chemical process that is over 100 years old and is well understood.

            It’s also the only way to lift any significant mass off of mars, because as you said we have no manufacturing or refueling there. So the rocket must refuel itself.

            It then follows that if Mars is the next major target of exploration, and methane is cheap and abundant, why not get started now? The alternative is to spend a decade qualifying an engine for human space flight after the green light for a crewed mission.

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              Alright cool but we’ve never used these rockets anywhere other than earth. Their development for future use isn’t an excuse to use them over other types currently.

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          They say this a lot, so I expect they have some machinery running to demonstrate the technology here on earth? We have plenty of hydrogen here after all.

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            Correct. It’s called the Sabatier reaction and it’s over 100 years old.

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                Oddly enough when the process was demonstrated by French scientists in the 1800s they did it in space, so the earth has yet to see this advanced technology.

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            Only by trump and musk. The astronaut’s statements are all over the place:

            Did politics influence NASA’s decision for you to stay longer in space?

            Wilmore: From my standpoint, politics is not playing into this at all. From our standpoint, I think that they would agree, we came up prepared to stay long, even though we plan to stay short. That’s what we do in human spaceflight. That’s what your nation’s human space flight program is all about, planning for unknown, unexpected contingencies. And we did that, and that’s why we flowed right into Crew 9, into Expedition 72 as we did. And it was somewhat of a seamless transition, because we had planned ahead for it, and we were prepared.

            Elon Musk said he made an offer to bring Butch and Suni home last year, but it was denied by the White House. Is this true?

            Wilmore: I can only say that Mr. Musk, what he says, is absolutely factual. We have no information on that, though, whatsoever; what was offered, what was not offered; who it was offered to, how that process went. That’s information that we simply don’t have. So I believe him. I don’t know all those details, and I don’t think any of us really can give you the answer that maybe that you would be hoping for.

            One of astronauts said they dont think its politized at all, that just how things are. Then seconds later said Musk saying it was politcal is absolutely correct, but also they had no information at all proving that.

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      Okay.

      I would not like someone that treats everything like a test flight program to run the FAA, or in fact run anything that’s not a test flight program.