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@mailbox_org@mailbox_org@mastodon.social are running their own mastodon server and it’s an excellent mail service provider. @Tutanota@mastodon.social are also present on Mastodon and is likewise an excellent mail service provider.
Such delicate snowflakes these ceos…
*member of the board
Ouch! They really are working hard on getting any privacy oriented person to leave them.
I’m glad I have moved away from them.
Out of curiosity, where did you move from Proton?
I was using mainly the emails from proton, I moved to mailbox.
At one point I was planning on moving my drive and VPN with them but their Linux support was really lacking, especially the CLI support so I’ve never done it and I’m glad I didn’t.
For the VPN I’m using Mullvad integrated with tailscale, for the drive in using my own synology NAS and tailscale to connect to it.
fleeing to reddit of all place, banning any instance of discourse, much like facebook is now.
What kind of expensive resources you need to just post on Mastodon?
ability to silence, and censor or criticism,?-proton probably
Mastodon has that too, so Wonder why leave Mastodon at all
They can’t control all the instances. I think that if they tried that with the one that I am on they would be laughed at.
Way easier for a company to make its own reddit and censor any post that talks about why you should probably start to look at moving your data before they are quietly asked to hand over all the data they have.
Makes sense
i disagree as there are plenty of tools to post to multiple platforms at once. but yea if they were so kind to actually interact then yes
A human being.
Whoever posts on reddit can copy paste to other platforms, if they are to lazy to use a software that consolidates it for them.
Glad I was always suspicious of Proton.
I’m not, they are a bunch of researchers having their servers in the country with the most privacy protective laws in the world.
Sure, criticise them when they do bad things, but what do you propose, google mail (etc.)?
If you don’t have some real information you are just following a gut feeling (which by the way is the simplest to manipulate) and I think that is kind of curious actually.
I like Proton, I have their email & VPN, works like a charm, and their servers are in nuke safe bunkers in the swiss mountains.
The only other company that I have seen that isn’t shady like for sure seems to be Mullvad, I mean if you hate the swiss or something or prefer the swedes …
Hard to claim manipulation when the leadership team is taking a machine gun to their feet.
Something has always felt off. Swiss security is always a red flag, and free is never truly free. Don’t really know who you can trust at this point. Everything seems to turn to shit as some point or another.
On the other hand, the red flag is a big plus.
From the statement on their webpage: " We believe in people before profits, and our primary shareholder is the non-profit Proton Foundation whose mission is to fight for an open internet that promotes freedom of speech and freedom of information."
Well this is certainly only one of the decisions of all time. I guess we finally got our reaction from the board. I was waiting, hoping to hear some rebuke of Yen’s bullshit. Didn’t expect another intentional step into shit. Bye Felicia.
Welp, I guess I’m switching to Tuta now.
Use Disroot
I just set up a paid account on Tuta today replacing my paid Proton account.
Everyone recommends Tuta in these threads.
I just (finally) had a look at their pricing. Seems egregiously expensive? 6EUR / user / month for their cheapest business plan is a bit nuts
That’s what Microsoft 365 Business Basic, Google Workspace Starter, and Proton Mail Essentials are all priced at. Seems like the market price to me
Much rather not maintain any email in any way.
Congratulations, you are no longer available to function in today’s society
I think their comment was tongue in cheek :) like they’re saying you need to pay for server maintenance
Lol
Switched to Mullvad for VPN, Baikal for calendar and contacts, Tuta for professional mail, and considering Bitwarden or Buttercup for a password manager
I use Bitwarden coming from LastPass. It’s great for me and my fam.
Wow, that’s so many different services to splinter one Proton account into. I was thinking about it too, but that sounds exhausting.
Pointing people to reddit, as if that’s an alternative. When a VPN provider makes such bad choices it’s tempting to imagine that the decision was influenced by somebody who wants to secretly get the message out that the company is no longer to be trusted, because it’s hard to see any other logic in it.
Reddit has a ton of users. Mastodon is marginal.
Fuck the fascists
That word has truly lost all meaning.
Sus af
Lmao k bye Proton
I’m searching for a safe and cheap alternative for my own domain, but it’s hard! And I don’t want to give money to American companies.
Namecrane, I think they are Canadian
Tuta is €3.60 a month or €3 a month if you pay for an entire year (€36) not sure if that’s “cheap” in your budget.
A .com domain is like $12 per year
Tuta takes like 48 hours to respons, slower than Proton who takes about 12-24 hours, but as long as the response is under 1 week, its fine by me.
I have only been using Tuta for like a month, still not sure if I’m staying tho…
There’s also Mailbox.org which is also about €3 a month, which doesn’t have encryption by default and they don’t have an official opensource client. (Tuta has their client on F-Droid)
Tuta takes like 48 hours to respons, slower than Proton who takes about 12-24 hours, but as long as the response is under 1 week, its fine by me.
Are you talking about support request response time here? Or what response time?
Support response time. In my experience, Proton usually responds faster.
Mailbox.org located in Germany and run by Peer Heinlein. You can use your own Domain with it just fine
tuta.com is great for me so far
Tuta Mail is free for personal use, though you must accept a few limitations. The free edition lets you send and receive all the secure messages you want, and it includes a secure calendar. Searching encrypted email is limited—with the free edition, you can only search messages up to a month old. Paying 36 euros per year for a Revolutionary subscription ($38.65 as of this writing) removes that search limitation, lets you have multiple calendars, and adds features including filtering rules and 15 alias email addresses (more about those later). It also raises the storage for your messages from 1GB to 20GB.
yea I just went with a paid plan right off the bat since I have a custom domain, has been totally fine
I been using Canadian webhost hosterbox.com for several years. Been very happy with them.
This might sound crazy but this is way worse to me than the CEO simping for orange man. At least for Trump he has a semi plausible excuse.
Reposting stuff on Mastodon or Bluesky barely requires any additional effort. And I cannot think of a good reason to close abandon the free publicity when they already have it set up.
Yea this is worse. The politics thing could be brushed off as Andy Yen being uneducated on American politics. Moving away from an already established fediverse platform is contradictory to Proton’s mission. It doesn’t take more than a minute to copy paste their xitter posts to Mastadon.
I think the reason is that every time they post something, someone there points out the Andy Yen thing. Thats basically the only comments. So its detrimental to their business.
And I’d have thought the potential customers segment are exactly the Mastodon users.
They have tools that let you cross-post effortlessly, so that’s strange.
Red flag… Do they tools to migrate ?
